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last few weeks about his administration's handling of the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi libya with hours of coverage devoted to the story fox is hoping to paint the president as weak or incompetent on foreign policy and monday republican congresswoman marsha blackburn appeared on fox to equate the president's handling of libya to watergate. being gaza gate is the right kind of charm for this i think this is very very serious probably more serious than watergate. so is this the strategy heading into november joining me now is craig unger contributing editor of vanity fair vanity fair magazine and author of the book boss rove inside karl rove's secret kingdom of power a brilliant book by the way i strongly recommend credit welcome back great to be back tom what information thank you for joining us what information do you have on the republicans using a soap. called jimmy carter strategy and president obama well i see the hand of call rove behind this again and rove has been the party boss has become the party boss of the republican party he is not out
last few weeks about his administration's handling of the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi libya with hours of coverage devoted to the story fox is hoping to paint the president as weak or incompetent on foreign policy and monday republican congresswoman marsha blackburn appeared on fox to equate the president's handling of libya to watergate. being gaza gate is the right kind of charm for this i think this is very very serious probably more serious than watergate. so is this the...
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. >> the current president, president obama, was on the show last week. the challenger, mitt romney has not been on the show. we have asked him to be on the show. we have -- any night, any time, short notice, whatever he wants, he can be on the show. he's got 39 days. now, i don't want to persuade anybody unnecessarily, but if he's not here in 39 days, don't vote for him. >> bill: no, not much of a chance that the majority of dave's audience will be supporting romney, but we do feel letterman's pain 'cause we're trying to get the governor on "the factor" as well. finally check five, because of all the interest in the upcoming debate this saturday evening between me and jon stewart, we put together a montage of past encounters. do you, jon stewart, have obama remorse? >> i think people feel a disappointment in that there was a sense that oh, jesus will walk on water and now you're looking like, oh, look that, it's just treading water. >> bill: you said he's let you down a couple of times when he didn't do a far left thing that you wanted. >> how far left a
. >> the current president, president obama, was on the show last week. the challenger, mitt romney has not been on the show. we have asked him to be on the show. we have -- any night, any time, short notice, whatever he wants, he can be on the show. he's got 39 days. now, i don't want to persuade anybody unnecessarily, but if he's not here in 39 days, don't vote for him. >> bill: no, not much of a chance that the majority of dave's audience will be supporting romney, but we do feel...
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. >> years or months or it could be weeks. it is a different tlesh hold than what the obama administration has laid out when you look carefully at what the president said at the general assembly, the most recent remarks on iran's nuclear program, he said the united states will not allow iran to have a nuclear bomb. i am paraphrasing to a certain degree. the word capability was not there. you did hear it from the israeli prime minister and today you're hearing it once again from mitt romney. mitt romney has been vague. he has gone back and forth on the issue of capability and sometimes he says it and sometimes he doesn't. today he is very cat goral in saying in a romney administration iran would not be able to have that capability of building a nuclear bomb which is significantly different than the threshold laid out by the president. >> and let's talk about syria which has been somewhat of a thorn in the side of this current sitting american president, and mr. romney, governor romney's view of syria, there was something in the
. >> years or months or it could be weeks. it is a different tlesh hold than what the obama administration has laid out when you look carefully at what the president said at the general assembly, the most recent remarks on iran's nuclear program, he said the united states will not allow iran to have a nuclear bomb. i am paraphrasing to a certain degree. the word capability was not there. you did hear it from the israeli prime minister and today you're hearing it once again from mitt...
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get out. >> eliot: so manniferous separations watching last week's debate. one of them, the many strong arguments president obama could have made but didn't. and one of those gives us the number of the day. 36 million. that's how many people with pre-existing conditions risk being denied medical coverage if mitt romney repeals the president's healthcare reform. despite romney's claims that people who already suffer ailments would still be covered if they changed jobs, bloomberg news says this that it doesn't complain what his plan would do for many other patients. as usual, governor romney gets vague on the details. even nearly a week later he still has not filled in the blanks. but tens of millions to find affordable healthcare unattainable. they'll bring this up thursday in the debate with congressman paul ryan. 36 million people have their health eight risk. the president and vice president should hammer it home in t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed. joy behar. >> on my next show, robert klein
get out. >> eliot: so manniferous separations watching last week's debate. one of them, the many strong arguments president obama could have made but didn't. and one of those gives us the number of the day. 36 million. that's how many people with pre-existing conditions risk being denied medical coverage if mitt romney repeals the president's healthcare reform. despite romney's claims that people who already suffer ailments would still be covered if they changed jobs, bloomberg news says...
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perhaps the worst political week of his life. while the president claims that the unexpected news is a sign that america is, quote, moving forward, there are a growing number of skeptics that are crying foul. chief is the former g.e. ceo jack welch. unbelievable job numbers. they can't debate so they change the numbers. he appeared earlier today on "your world." >> these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. every economist predicted roughly 90,000 to 120,000. this economy doesn't feel like the employment improved this level. it is just -- maybe it's a coincidence that the month before the election, we have a number that comes out 1/10th below when the president took office. >> sean: jack welch is not the only one tawing of this timely development. listen to what business insider said on fox business new york this morning. >> i feel like i am watching a movie, a suspense movie. because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate. and somebody needs to dig real deep into this. h
perhaps the worst political week of his life. while the president claims that the unexpected news is a sign that america is, quote, moving forward, there are a growing number of skeptics that are crying foul. chief is the former g.e. ceo jack welch. unbelievable job numbers. they can't debate so they change the numbers. he appeared earlier today on "your world." >> these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. every economist predicted...
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president obama is investigate expectations this week. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this election, andry going to have a debate. i am looking forward to it. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who is going to have the best zinger. i don't know about that. no, no. governor romney, she a good debater. i'm just okay. >> bob: there you go. expect taig game. it happens every debate. but the problem is president is recognized as a good debater and romney is not. the problem for obama, they better be careful, romney had 24 debates in the primary campaign. and obama has not debated since four years ago. dana, what do you think? >> dana: except for "the view." >> bob: what do you think of the expectations? dais when president obama says that, it's not credible. they don't believe that. they think so highly of themselves and their campaign, when he says that, you know he is setting it up so the headline the next day will be despite expectation of him not doing well, president obama shined. that's what you will read. >> greg: surprisingly good point. gamesma
president obama is investigate expectations this week. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this election, andry going to have a debate. i am looking forward to it. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who is going to have the best zinger. i don't know about that. no, no. governor romney, she a good debater. i'm just okay. >> bob: there you go. expect taig game. it happens every debate. but the problem is president is recognized as a good debater...
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you got to wonder where obama finds the staffers. i haven't seen this many clowns since ringling brothers had a job fair. who was the source who said the video caused all of this? video no one heard of until after the attacks. it's not a question. it's a scandal. it points to intellectual corruption of the highest order. deep desire to blame america for evil in the world while excusing the real perpetrators. breaking the paperclip i'm so angry. it's a question that changes an election. we can't remember how the media enabled this. i remember one guy getting it right. >> freedom of speech is only valuable if you exercise. it you abdicate it with election prejudices. you sold yourself cheap. setting a horrible precedent. you're december industr destroyr profession. >> greg: i should have changed the shirt. i'm wearing the same thing. he is gorgeous, nonetheless. others have picked up the ball. >> we have a first amendment not because the founding fathers loved the press. they hated the press. but they said to have a free country and be
you got to wonder where obama finds the staffers. i haven't seen this many clowns since ringling brothers had a job fair. who was the source who said the video caused all of this? video no one heard of until after the attacks. it's not a question. it's a scandal. it points to intellectual corruption of the highest order. deep desire to blame america for evil in the world while excusing the real perpetrators. breaking the paperclip i'm so angry. it's a question that changes an election. we can't...
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did not answer last week. that is the preparation taking six days i'm not sure he is up to it. foreign policy, he has experience. to show he is competent for joe biden to get inside the numbers, paul ryan has been living with for 12, 15 years, chairman as young guy jumping over the republicans. that is too much to get by studying. >> andrea: you're alive. i was going to call em s unit for your vital signs. >> bob: yeah, ryan delivered numbers on the wrong side. he is still a right winger. joe biden has been in politics for 35 years. you take one minute of the goof here and make it funny. he is one of the skilled politicians in america. he will take him to the woodshed and expose the guys for what they are, which is a bunch of shams. >> eric: the obama campaign now is in desperation mode. panic mode. they saw a five-point lead turn in to three or four point deficit. they need him to step up and do something. >> andrea: they also -- >> eric: stop the slide. >> andrea: they might rely on immediate you to do the d
did not answer last week. that is the preparation taking six days i'm not sure he is up to it. foreign policy, he has experience. to show he is competent for joe biden to get inside the numbers, paul ryan has been living with for 12, 15 years, chairman as young guy jumping over the republicans. that is too much to get by studying. >> andrea: you're alive. i was going to call em s unit for your vital signs. >> bob: yeah, ryan delivered numbers on the wrong side. he is still a right...
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>> ever since mitt romney called out big bird by name at last week's presidential debate, president obama's campaign has been having a lot of fun with it. at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is from the obama campaign. >> i'm barack obama, i approve this message. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall
>> ever since mitt romney called out big bird by name at last week's presidential debate, president obama's campaign has been having a lot of fun with it. at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the...
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obama prevailed. rasmussen dale tracking poll today has the race tied among likely voters. 48% each. in iowa and colorado, the president is hanging tough. in iowa, it's obama 49, romney 47. colorado, obama 49, romney 48. both are dead heats within the margin of error. joining us from washington, democratic strategist marge mcclinton in for juan williams and mary katherine ham. the pugh number, 49-45 surprised me, mary katherine. same with you? >> i was a little surprised at how far it moved. i'm not surprised it's moving in mitt romney's favor. i mean, this was 70 million people watching and the guy who showed up, mitt romney showed up to do that job that night was the best he had ever looked and certainly obama, the worst he ever looked on a stage with someone else, i would say when we have seen him in the situations before. people tuned in those 70 million people thinking they were going to be a colts-packers fight, but they were surprised. i think the amount of that surprise worked in romney's favo
obama prevailed. rasmussen dale tracking poll today has the race tied among likely voters. 48% each. in iowa and colorado, the president is hanging tough. in iowa, it's obama 49, romney 47. colorado, obama 49, romney 48. both are dead heats within the margin of error. joining us from washington, democratic strategist marge mcclinton in for juan williams and mary katherine ham. the pugh number, 49-45 surprised me, mary katherine. same with you? >> i was a little surprised at how far it...
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>>guest: it is hard to say because it will take a long-term, not a long-term, up to a week to she in the presidents. we don't know yet what it will look like in the battleground states. the obama campaign is moving very quickly to make that trust argument against mitt romney through some of their surrogates in states like ohio and virginia and others. they don't want this to take off for mitt romney. >>trace: it could take a few days or a week to find out how it polls. i will give you exams of how it is polling. this is cbs and cbs says that 56 percent say their opinion of mitt romney has changed, and 63 percent say romney cares about their needs and problems. that is up 33 percent from before the debate. those are good numbers. >>guest: they sure you. one thing that the focus groups showed up last night, we have had a lot of undecided voters liked what they heard from mitt romney about the bipartisan record as governor of massachusetts. that is not something that gets on the trail. we don't see that in ads. we see a last independent voters like that. president obama has a reputation
>>guest: it is hard to say because it will take a long-term, not a long-term, up to a week to she in the presidents. we don't know yet what it will look like in the battleground states. the obama campaign is moving very quickly to make that trust argument against mitt romney through some of their surrogates in states like ohio and virginia and others. they don't want this to take off for mitt romney. >>trace: it could take a few days or a week to find out how it polls. i will give...
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it sounded like sour grapes a few weeks ago and it's sounding like similar sour grapes when the obama campaign doesn't like the numbers, but this ain't the first time we've been at this rodeo. >> no, and if you look at different polls, the waiting as it's called, is different in different snapshots. and what we can say about this, is that it is a snapshot in time. i mean, i look at the numbers where the gender gap is even and i'm scratching my head about that because that number seems very high to me for romney to be tied with president obama on gender because generally, democrats do better with women than republicans. so, you know, you have to look at these numbers. say president obama did not have a good night in that debate. that what everything mitt romney could have wanted to get out of that debate, he got out of this debate and if he has gotten his potential supporters more enthusiastic about going out to the polls and that's what this reflects, that's very good for mitt romney. >> so, cornell, jump in with the difference between likely voters and registered voters, there is a d
it sounded like sour grapes a few weeks ago and it's sounding like similar sour grapes when the obama campaign doesn't like the numbers, but this ain't the first time we've been at this rodeo. >> no, and if you look at different polls, the waiting as it's called, is different in different snapshots. and what we can say about this, is that it is a snapshot in time. i mean, i look at the numbers where the gender gap is even and i'm scratching my head about that because that number seems...
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president obama's campaign outspending mitt romney's campaign almost 2-1 in the last three weeks of september. take a look at the next level. super pac level, republican super pacs outspending 2-1. in some senate races it shows more than 50% of the ads on air in swing states are coming from these super pacs. fascinating measure just how much they're having an effect and, in some cases, propping up campaigns. >> the two biggest super pacs out there, dedicated to president obama and romney, they're obviously the chief of each of those is about to come on the show. how are they doing specifically? >> in terms of money raised to debt, current year-to-date totals we have, the general ratio shows restore our future, romney associated super pac outspending the super pac associated with president obama. for the month of august, first time liberal super pacs outraised conservative super pacs. the restore our future super pac aired no ads from a period of august 21st to september 19th. they were dark. that's an extraordinary thing and raises a lot of questions. are they saving up their cash, considerin
president obama's campaign outspending mitt romney's campaign almost 2-1 in the last three weeks of september. take a look at the next level. super pac level, republican super pacs outspending 2-1. in some senate races it shows more than 50% of the ads on air in swing states are coming from these super pacs. fascinating measure just how much they're having an effect and, in some cases, propping up campaigns. >> the two biggest super pacs out there, dedicated to president obama and romney,...
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they haven't wanted to be as confrontational with president obama. you have this line that mitt romney has been saying now throughout the entire, you know, election, president obama's a really nice guy, he's in over his head. i don't think that's the right attitude to take into the debate. i think he'll have to be aggressive. he'll have to be confrontational. doesn't mean he has to be nasty. there's a difference, but he has to be very aggressive, look like he's being aggressive to the viewers. >> greta: when he says he's over his head, that's a little condescending, that kind of thing. i think he'd be better saying he's wrong. >> well, either way. he has to seize this moment entirely. think back to those debates. how often did each of those candidates say, i want to be the guy who stands on the stage debating the president? if he can deliver a very strong attack against him, i don't see why that wouldn't bring republicans, anyone upset with the president with romney. he has to take full of that opportunity. there are republicans who dream of the oppo
they haven't wanted to be as confrontational with president obama. you have this line that mitt romney has been saying now throughout the entire, you know, election, president obama's a really nice guy, he's in over his head. i don't think that's the right attitude to take into the debate. i think he'll have to be aggressive. he'll have to be confrontational. doesn't mean he has to be nasty. there's a difference, but he has to be very aggressive, look like he's being aggressive to the viewers....
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has the obama administration succeeded in making this a nonissue for the november 6 election? >> i think that they are trying to make it a nonissue for the election. but there has been too much misinformation. senator corker and i respect secretary clinton greatly. she has been the most the forth right of anybody in the administration. the president has hardly talked about it. ms. rice has told what she was told to say not what i think she really knew and as bob corker said in the clip earlier the one briefing from clapper and ms. clinton and the members of the secret service and the fbi was a nonbriefing. we need the facts and we need them now. >> geraldo: what about the tension that the best information that he had was what they gave and ambassador rice was merely echoing what the intelligence community had told her at the time? do you buy that? >> i think she was echoing what she was told to say. i don't think that is what the intelligence community was telling her. within 24 hours of the attack the intelligence community has told us they began to see evidence this was in f
has the obama administration succeeded in making this a nonissue for the november 6 election? >> i think that they are trying to make it a nonissue for the election. but there has been too much misinformation. senator corker and i respect secretary clinton greatly. she has been the most the forth right of anybody in the administration. the president has hardly talked about it. ms. rice has told what she was told to say not what i think she really knew and as bob corker said in the clip...
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all right, the biggest story this week in politics was the first presidential debate in denver. the first view, even among the staunchest obama supporters was that romney won the debate convincingly and one left of center commentator four years ago had a tingle up his leg hearing obama speak. waste in a such a meltdown over the poor performance this time he had a tingle run down his leg because he wet his pants. (laughter) >> and some of the excuses to try to explain the president not being much better than the empty chair that clint'swood revealed to us were simply bizarre. al gore thought it was the altitude of denver. i think the former vice-president may have been a little high. but the most ridiculous excuse of all was offered by yet another left wing obama, on another network and this guy with a straight face suggested that obama didn't debate well because he was black. what? you mean after getting elected president of the united states, and serving almost four years, barack obama suddenly walked out on the stage and said, oh, my gosh, i'm black, i can't take on this white
all right, the biggest story this week in politics was the first presidential debate in denver. the first view, even among the staunchest obama supporters was that romney won the debate convincingly and one left of center commentator four years ago had a tingle up his leg hearing obama speak. waste in a such a meltdown over the poor performance this time he had a tingle run down his leg because he wet his pants. (laughter) >> and some of the excuses to try to explain the president not...
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not only decide to support obama on this issue the last two weeks, what we see is a press that has decided that it will not tell the american people the truth. not only tell people oho they may or may not vote for but now telling people what truth they may know and what truth they may not know. >> what is the truth? look, we have covered this story responsibly here on the factor, all right? >> you have. >> but i only take it up to where the facts lie. and that's why i gave the time line. and the other thing is unfortunately the folks don't care about this story. they don't. the massive amount of people in america. not people who watch cable news and listen to talk radio but just the folks watching dancing with stars and nfl and world wrestling, they don't care about the libyan story. they don't care about the libyan ambassador unfortunately. it's hard to make them care. >> if you don't tell them, then how will they care? let me just say. this we had an incident where, you know, the day after when you talked about this we had 20 countries where had you demonstrations, embassy, rioting our e
not only decide to support obama on this issue the last two weeks, what we see is a press that has decided that it will not tell the american people the truth. not only tell people oho they may or may not vote for but now telling people what truth they may know and what truth they may not know. >> what is the truth? look, we have covered this story responsibly here on the factor, all right? >> you have. >> but i only take it up to where the facts lie. and that's why i gave the...
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. >>> less than 24 hours from now, with the election five weeks away, president obama and mitt romney will face off. presidential debates can shift race. joining me now alan schroeder, a professor of the school of journalism in northeast university in boston. author of "presidential debates, 50 years of high-risk tv" and patrick mill sapz who served as chief of staff in newt gingrich's campaign. you say the pie is baloney line is one of his strongest hits during his campaign run against mitt romney. >> can be drop some of the pious baloney? you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you weren't serving in the senate for rick santorum. suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, level with the american people. you have been running since the 1 990s. >> how much of those zingers are prethought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> that was all newt. part of great thing about newt, he knew the topic, knew the weak points, but prepared to answer the question. if you can come up with pious baloney, that puts a cherry on top. if you googled baloney
. >>> less than 24 hours from now, with the election five weeks away, president obama and mitt romney will face off. presidential debates can shift race. joining me now alan schroeder, a professor of the school of journalism in northeast university in boston. author of "presidential debates, 50 years of high-risk tv" and patrick mill sapz who served as chief of staff in newt gingrich's campaign. you say the pie is baloney line is one of his strongest hits during his campaign...
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governor romney had a good week talking about the economy. they want to definele what will be talked about this week on the if foreign policy front. they'll have a hearing about what went on the in libya on the security side leading up to the attack there. that's what he wants to set the stage for. if they talk about foreign policy this week, he wants it to define the terms on which we have that debate. >> because words matter, you started off with with saying i think that's what governor romney was talking about. an ongoing investigation into what happened in libya. obviously, aa he great concern. but you could not answer that question with certainty of what epic failure governor romney and republicans believe has happened over the past four years under this president's leadership, under secretary of state hillary clinton here. that is still unclear even after that 25-minute speech a couple of hours ago. >> he made the case that the middle east is not more stable here. that's a failure that he wants to talk about. he made a case that terrori
governor romney had a good week talking about the economy. they want to definele what will be talked about this week on the if foreign policy front. they'll have a hearing about what went on the in libya on the security side leading up to the attack there. that's what he wants to set the stage for. if they talk about foreign policy this week, he wants it to define the terms on which we have that debate. >> because words matter, you started off with with saying i think that's what governor...
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critics slam his performance at last week's debate. tonight veteran newsman jim lehrer is here to set the record straight. explosive new details are emerging about a campaign donor scandal that could rock the obama white house. >> it's time to change course in the middle east. >> plus, former u.n. embassy john bolten breaks down mitt romney's doctrine versus the anointed one. >> hope is not a strategy. >> sean: governor mitt romney's impressive performance last week will go down as the most decisive victory in history and americans must agree, because according to a brand-new gallup poll by a record-breaking 52-point margin, 72% of voters think romney did a much better job than president barack obama. anointed one stumbling and bumbling in denver is costing him in the polls, nationally and in battleground states. the latest gallup survey, the governor is now tied with the president among registered voters, a five-point swing in romney's favor in the days immediately following the debate. by the way, it's a seven-day rolling average, an
critics slam his performance at last week's debate. tonight veteran newsman jim lehrer is here to set the record straight. explosive new details are emerging about a campaign donor scandal that could rock the obama white house. >> it's time to change course in the middle east. >> plus, former u.n. embassy john bolten breaks down mitt romney's doctrine versus the anointed one. >> hope is not a strategy. >> sean: governor mitt romney's impressive performance last week will...
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policy speech in virginia today, but over the weekend in florida, he focused on taxes and president obama. >> he will ultimately have to raise taxes on middle income taxes by $4,000 a year. >> reporter: since last week's debate, which romney is widely regarded as having won, both sides argued the other was dishonest. >> he was a little taken aback at the brazenness with which governor romney walked away from so many of the positions on which he's run. >> reporter: their truth war now on tv. >> not telling the truth about mitt romney's tax plan. >> this was dishonest. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> the governor knows his $5 trillion tax cut isn't too popular, so a few weeks before the election, he's trying to pretend it doesn't exist. >> reporter: president obama at a star-studded fundraising concert in los angeles sunday, heads to san francisco today with romney's poll numbers improving. >> they're looking very good. >> reporter: after the debate, reuters puts mitt romney within two points of the president. tomorrow we'll see both candidates in ohio. there's good reason
policy speech in virginia today, but over the weekend in florida, he focused on taxes and president obama. >> he will ultimately have to raise taxes on middle income taxes by $4,000 a year. >> reporter: since last week's debate, which romney is widely regarded as having won, both sides argued the other was dishonest. >> he was a little taken aback at the brazenness with which governor romney walked away from so many of the positions on which he's run. >> reporter: their...
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but from obama, you saw those quips he was tossing out. the stuff that you wish you had said, all the witty remarks and rebuttals that you never said at the dinner, but you remember on the way out. so he had all of these chances last night, which again shows he doesn't have a good game when it comes to being quick and effective on his feet, he's trying to make up for it. but what's going to happen in the second debate, it's going to be a town hall. that's different dynamic, how you interact with the audience. that's where, for example, bush did badly. bush won and clinton did really well. so that's going to be a challenge. romney is really good one on one. it will be different in a town hall for him. >> bret: we have the wit of the staircase sometimes here on the panel. when we leave the panel, man, why didn't i say that. >> i have the wit of the car every night. [ laughter ] >> bret: speaking of the biden-ryan set-up as we got ready to head to kentucky, kirsten, you listen to that sound bite and you heard charles say, oh, it's just biden.
but from obama, you saw those quips he was tossing out. the stuff that you wish you had said, all the witty remarks and rebuttals that you never said at the dinner, but you remember on the way out. so he had all of these chances last night, which again shows he doesn't have a good game when it comes to being quick and effective on his feet, he's trying to make up for it. but what's going to happen in the second debate, it's going to be a town hall. that's different dynamic, how you interact...
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you know with joe biden you are going to get a handsful of these -- maybe every week. but the soft spot for president obama is that the record for the last four years is not one he can be particularly proud of. he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t. he clarified and said it's because of the romney and ryan policies that they were buried over the larger period than four yierz, but it's a bad comment. it's the four years that you are going to have president obama trying to defend -- tomorrow night. >> the problem is, joe biden talked about the one thing he was not supposed to talk about on the campaign. this is what the obama administration has been militant about -- they want to talk about the bad things of the bush administration and the things they may do in the future that will make them better. they don't want to talk about the last
you know with joe biden you are going to get a handsful of these -- maybe every week. but the soft spot for president obama is that the record for the last four years is not one he can be particularly proud of. he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t....
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the latest pew poll conducted after last week's debate puts romney firmly in the lead of president obama, 49 to 45. in the same poll in september, the president had a 51-43 lead. romney seems to be gaining ground with women. in a moment, i will ask polling guru nate silver what it all really means. meantime, a newly energized candidate romney is wasting no time pressing his advantage, today hitting the president with tough talk on foreign policy, including the deadly attack on americans in libya. >> this latest assault can't be blamed on a reprehensible video insulting islam, despite the administration's attempts to convince us of that for so long. no, as the administration has finally conceded, these attacks were the deliberate work of terrorists who use violence to impose their dark ideology on others, especially on women and girls who are fighting to control much of the middle east today and who seek to wage perpetual war on the west. >> joining me now, a man who knows quite a lot about mitt romney's views on all this, norm coleman, adviser to the romney campaign on foreign policy and
the latest pew poll conducted after last week's debate puts romney firmly in the lead of president obama, 49 to 45. in the same poll in september, the president had a 51-43 lead. romney seems to be gaining ground with women. in a moment, i will ask polling guru nate silver what it all really means. meantime, a newly energized candidate romney is wasting no time pressing his advantage, today hitting the president with tough talk on foreign policy, including the deadly attack on americans in...
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couple weeks on libya you will see governor romney try to go after president obama on competence, on foreign policy but also on the broader issue of competence and leadership. >> and that brings you to the fourth point which is president obama ready for prime time? he's been president for four years. >> right. >> and he is well known for being able to give the great speech. >> right. >> is he ready for this combat? >> that's right. i mean, governor romney, the 20th in the course of the primary, this is a different level. president obama has nodd not ha one for some time. i think president obama has to be careful month to not come off as too harsh. hillary, you're likable enough, when the president can come off a little bit cold. so i think he's going to have to be careful on that. >> and finally, as we go, who brings up bill clinton first? will we see he's campaigning in new hampshire today so he's being deployed. >> i have no doubt that president obama will be happy to invoke bill clinton's support here. and i wouldn't be surprised if romney mentioned him either in terms of trying t
couple weeks on libya you will see governor romney try to go after president obama on competence, on foreign policy but also on the broader issue of competence and leadership. >> and that brings you to the fourth point which is president obama ready for prime time? he's been president for four years. >> right. >> and he is well known for being able to give the great speech. >> right. >> is he ready for this combat? >> that's right. i mean, governor romney,...
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what he needs to do is kind of what obama did in 2008. when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time righ
what he needs to do is kind of what obama did in 2008. when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that...
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thanks for watching, have a fabulous week. and give me six seconds. >> tonight on huckabee, as mitt romney prepares to debate president obama in the presidential debate, and give advice on what undecided voters want to hear. and tough questions for the republican challenger. and for the president, is the mainstream media tipping the scales toward the left? pat buchanan speaks out. plus, corruption, crime, chaos, documentary phil make -- film maker says it's business as usual at the united nations. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applause] >> hello, everybody, thank you. great group of folks we have here and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. all right, last week on this show, i told you that your government had lied to you about the attacks in egypt and libya when they claimed they were just acts of a spontaneous mob in reaction it a youtube video. i said then and i repeat now, i normally would not have used such strong language and made such a bold declaration, but the continuing
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can you believe it, jame which, exactly one week away from election day and president obama taking time off the campaign trail this weekend and governor romney is scheduled to speak at a campaign rally in the battle ground of florida tonight. >> jamie: a passenger full of tourists overturns on a new jersey exit ramp over turns. >> kelly: and syrian mortar shell landed near a turkish villa and turkey has been firing into syria since another mortar shell killed five turkish civilians on wednesday. >> jamie: a political battle underway over the layoff notices for a mandatory defense cut and that will take effect unless congress can agree on a budget. the obama administration trying to delay the pink slips from ever being sent out. mike emanuel as those from washington. >> reporter: that's a lot. and many are hoping that president and congress will work out a deal to avoid the cuts which secretary panetta said would be devastating, but a law called the warren act says if you expect to have that, he's going to be straight with the employees and says the uncertainty is rough. >> it's the sequ
can you believe it, jame which, exactly one week away from election day and president obama taking time off the campaign trail this weekend and governor romney is scheduled to speak at a campaign rally in the battle ground of florida tonight. >> jamie: a passenger full of tourists overturns on a new jersey exit ramp over turns. >> kelly: and syrian mortar shell landed near a turkish villa and turkey has been firing into syria since another mortar shell killed five turkish civilians...
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i look for work 7 days a week actually. it is the hardest unpaid job i have ever had. >> reporter: he wants to know what president obama and mitt romney will do for people like him. >> there's a lot of people who have been out of work for a long time who are not satisfied with the status quo with either party the way it is working. >> reporter: the final segments of debate will focus on healthcare. >> i want to repeal obamacare and replace it with something that will get the costs under control. >> reporter: and the role of government. bigad shaban, cbs news, denver. >> you can see the debate live here on cbs 5 at 6:00 tonight. >>> 4:42. more airplane seats coming loose during another flight. what american said is the big problem. >> plus, an outpouring of support. why a tv anchor spent four minutes responding to a viewer's critical email. >> and first he shoots and scores and celebrates a hockey star's disappearing act. that story coming up. [ laughter ] >> after the break. poor guy. ,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hockey league player
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the remaining five weeks before the election the gap between the photo id's issued and the estimated need will not be closed. some supporters say the ruling shows a clear double standard. >> obama had a rally if you had to have a photo id to go to his rally. if it is good enough for his rally why not here. >> american airlines is now blaming clamps they say were installed incorrectly for the seats popping lose during three different flights since late last week. the airline is now inspecting other airplanes that use the very same clamps. 36 have been checked so far, 4 needed to be fixed 11 more planes still need to be inspected. the clamps were installed incorrectly during maintenance work by employees and contractors. there has been speculation the problems may have been the result of sabotage related to a bunch of ongoing labor disputes between the company and the union. but the airline ruling that one out. >>> another dead end in the search for jimmy hoffa's remains. michigan police say they didn't find human remains under a shed in roseville. police took soil samples last week af
the remaining five weeks before the election the gap between the photo id's issued and the estimated need will not be closed. some supporters say the ruling shows a clear double standard. >> obama had a rally if you had to have a photo id to go to his rally. if it is good enough for his rally why not here. >> american airlines is now blaming clamps they say were installed incorrectly for the seats popping lose during three different flights since late last week. the airline is now...
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the regular americans really don't start looking at this stuff until three weeks before the election. people might start paying attention. who do you trust? how can you trust barack obama going forward when it failed so miserably the past four years by joe biden's own admission. that is even if you nt to blame rusch, you have a guy in the white house who promised us he would make things better, he is made things worse, he is a failure. >> i am not one of these crazy who do not believe the evidence in front of my eyes. clearly the argument is resounding and working. but you know what, he is very good. ashley: would never have enough time. want to touch on the debate very quickly and what you think the key issues are tomorrow night in denver. late-night funnyman david letterman jumping into the political orders. his controversial statements next. overmanyiscounts to thine customs! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare.
the regular americans really don't start looking at this stuff until three weeks before the election. people might start paying attention. who do you trust? how can you trust barack obama going forward when it failed so miserably the past four years by joe biden's own admission. that is even if you nt to blame rusch, you have a guy in the white house who promised us he would make things better, he is made things worse, he is a failure. >> i am not one of these crazy who do not believe the...
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in fact, what's interesting is in the last week, when the republicans have been doing trial balloons with this attack, the president's advantage on foreign policy has actually increased. in the battleground poll, it increased by a third. over this period in time. the president's credentials on foreign policy are well-established and what's different about the president and mitt romney is the president has a record and he doesn't play politics with foreign policy. and i think that provides a great deal of security to voters. voters also rank the president as ahead of mitt romney on strong leadership. and that strong leadership is highly correlated with the decisive actions he's taken in foreign policy whether it is getting us out of iraq or finding osama bin laden or waiting to get the information before you incorrectly shoot from the hip which is what mitt romney did about libya. >> jennifer: that october surprise won't work. who knows if there is another one. there is a debate coming up tomorrow. 38% of voters say the upcoming debates actually are going to be important in helping th
in fact, what's interesting is in the last week, when the republicans have been doing trial balloons with this attack, the president's advantage on foreign policy has actually increased. in the battleground poll, it increased by a third. over this period in time. the president's credentials on foreign policy are well-established and what's different about the president and mitt romney is the president has a record and he doesn't play politics with foreign policy. and i think that provides a...
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your campaign advisor last week, axelrod said you don't need a specific plan on social security. to turn it that way. one thing that is effective for romney to do, say to the american people, i will not -- if i'm fortunate enough to be elected to be your president, i will not spend four years blaming this guy. i will focus on getting solutions done. that's more effective than worrying about this or that tax cut. in january, whatever the tax economy is, if you become president, that's when you decide what the tax closures will be. >> bob: good idea what you said, to say that. but he still has to say when he said on the trail -- by the way, obama should say your own vice president candidate voted against simpson-bow-bowles. leaving that aside, can you tell us what loopholes you are going to cut that won't affect the middle class? he can't. >> eric: you know what else president obama can't do is talk about which entitlement he will cut to bring the deficit down which he promised four years ago. >> andrea: i don't think president obama has a leg to stand on when it comes to entitleme
your campaign advisor last week, axelrod said you don't need a specific plan on social security. to turn it that way. one thing that is effective for romney to do, say to the american people, i will not -- if i'm fortunate enough to be elected to be your president, i will not spend four years blaming this guy. i will focus on getting solutions done. that's more effective than worrying about this or that tax cut. in january, whatever the tax economy is, if you become president, that's when you...
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that's a point of weakness for obama at this point. so the romney campaign will go after that. foreign policy will be a big issue with only a little over a month to go. >>shepard: thank you, great to see you. >> administration folks are trying to figure out how the deadly attacks in benghazi occurred. a suicide bombing in afghanistan pushes the american casualty count beyond a grim milestone. the latest from america's longest war is coming up on "studio b" next. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you can't beat them. [ giggles ] ohh! you got something huh? whoa... [ male announcer ] humana understands the value of spending time together that's a lot of work getting that one in! let's go see the birdies. [ male announcer ] one on one, sharing what you know. let's do it grandpa.
that's a point of weakness for obama at this point. so the romney campaign will go after that. foreign policy will be a big issue with only a little over a month to go. >>shepard: thank you, great to see you. >> administration folks are trying to figure out how the deadly attacks in benghazi occurred. a suicide bombing in afghanistan pushes the american casualty count beyond a grim milestone. the latest from america's longest war is coming up on "studio b" next. want to...
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we'll hear more about the candidates foreign policy vision for now in most states president obama is leading in the polls although by a very small margin there are going pretty much six to neck but it's important to mention that in the us a candidate might win the majority of the popular vote and still lose the election because it's not the popular vote is the so-called electoral college that decides the outcome of the presidential election here every state gives the candidate a certain number of points and the winner has to collect the number two hundred seventy points even if a candidate loses a state by just say three votes they get zero points that way it's a very peculiar electoral system which is not really about the will of the majority so not only are the americans stuck with just two choices because it's a two worst race system but they're also not guaranteed to get the president that the majority of american voters test their votes for one more thing almost. half of americans identify themselves as independents that's according to a gallup poll forty percent the fact of the
we'll hear more about the candidates foreign policy vision for now in most states president obama is leading in the polls although by a very small margin there are going pretty much six to neck but it's important to mention that in the us a candidate might win the majority of the popular vote and still lose the election because it's not the popular vote is the so-called electoral college that decides the outcome of the presidential election here every state gives the candidate a certain number...
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the republican party might hate obama enough and be frus stratr enough to let him wink and do more. if so he faces something far more challenging than a good debate never the last weeks of the campaign. he faces a moderate republican. let's get started. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> america's biggest corporations have a unique per expect tifb on the economy. i recently had an opportunity to talk to the heads of three very different, very successful businesses if finance, in manufacturing, and in technology. when i chaired the panel for the clinton global initiative. they are lloyd blankfein the chairman and ce o o of goldman sachs. andrew live russ, the chairman and ceo of dow chemical and john chambers the chair manned and ceo of cisco. the conversation was fascinating. listen in. >>> lloyd, let me start with you. when you look at the global economy, right now, you know, what is it, four years after the crash, what does it look like to you? >> well, we're definitely in a m muddle-through phase, slow growth, very disappointing. but i think one of the things that was achi
the republican party might hate obama enough and be frus stratr enough to let him wink and do more. if so he faces something far more challenging than a good debate never the last weeks of the campaign. he faces a moderate republican. let's get started. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> america's biggest corporations have a unique per expect tifb on the economy. i recently had an opportunity to talk to the heads of three very different, very successful businesses if finance, in...
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speaking of debate prep, president obama is going to do some of his own this coming weekend preparing and perhaps retooling ahead of the next presidential debate. that is next week. back to you guys. >> vice presidential debate is another big talker. they were talking about it all over the weekend especially on the sundays show. >> what should we expect from joe biden following the state's poor performance. turn to the political debate coach that prepped george w. bush mccain and romney for the primaries brett o'donnell for that answer. >> i am sure vice president biden got a phone call from the white house saying look we didn't go after governor romney. you have to turn up the heat. debates abore about on the grou the one who controls the debate. i don't mean necessarily attacking your opponent. it didn't attack the president overnight governor romney stayed on message. whoever stayed on message will be viewed as the victor. biden has been coached to give back on message and to go after paul ryan. now how much he can do that we will see. i am sure congressman ryan has been preparing
speaking of debate prep, president obama is going to do some of his own this coming weekend preparing and perhaps retooling ahead of the next presidential debate. that is next week. back to you guys. >> vice presidential debate is another big talker. they were talking about it all over the weekend especially on the sundays show. >> what should we expect from joe biden following the state's poor performance. turn to the political debate coach that prepped george w. bush mccain and...
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it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of running for president, but enough of me. let's take a listen. >> mike is here in the audience sxfshgs he asked this question. if you could see any american elected president, who would you choose and why? >> i would say clint eastwood have to be my guy. >> well, why don't we ask him. so, um -- what? tell them to do what? >> that was one of the lighter moments. you know, there was some serious parts to this debate. both gentlemen talked policy, and i think, though, the american viewers were the winners in that debate, suzanne. >> absolutely. thank you, paul. you can watch the vice presidential debate right here on cnn. joe biden
it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of running for president, but enough of me....
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but our truth is that president obama couldn't have won because his policies just haven't worked. thank god for the japanese. uncovered some news, looking at photos or films of cute baby animals improves product divot and enhances, and make people more focus when they're looking at ugly animals or food and maybe with cute animals, obama could get more productivity out of the 47%, purely an economic plan must be be better than recasting food stamps and unemployment as stimulus. remember green jobs? that was stimulus, too, the only green jobs was the guy with his fist up kermit's rear. and we see better growth on a corpse' fingernails. how could this cuty pie be more sensible, tracking obama's approach to everything based on a wonkish application of nonworld substance recasting failure of european models of success, so we haven't shrunken up to a puppy specificatio specifications, get a kitten, at least when they're broke, we'll have something to play with and something to eat when we run out of food. >> he likes dogs. >> juan, what do you think? does looking at adorable animals mak
but our truth is that president obama couldn't have won because his policies just haven't worked. thank god for the japanese. uncovered some news, looking at photos or films of cute baby animals improves product divot and enhances, and make people more focus when they're looking at ugly animals or food and maybe with cute animals, obama could get more productivity out of the 47%, purely an economic plan must be be better than recasting food stamps and unemployment as stimulus. remember green...
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now obama has been on defense for the last week. you see the poll are the showing him going down, not going up. the one who can stay on offense ultimately sometimes will go out and win the battle, win the war. but it's like watching the tennis matches in new york, the u.s. open, back and forth. then november 7, that morning we'll find out who won. megyn: the consternation by some on the left who said this election was gone and it was a foregone conclusion that barack obama was going to win a second term, michael, you can see it in the publications coming out today how forlorn they are about the shift in polling. nobody is saying mitt romney has it sewn but this is a tight race. >> i was walking past a news expand in an airport yesterday and saw the cover of news week magazine. "is barack obama the democrat's reagan?" you have got to be kidding. the reality is no, he's not ronald reagan. ronald reagan had core values. you saw those in the debates. you saw that in his life. i don't think barack obama has core values at all. he listens
now obama has been on defense for the last week. you see the poll are the showing him going down, not going up. the one who can stay on offense ultimately sometimes will go out and win the battle, win the war. but it's like watching the tennis matches in new york, the u.s. open, back and forth. then november 7, that morning we'll find out who won. megyn: the consternation by some on the left who said this election was gone and it was a foregone conclusion that barack obama was going to win a...
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last week, the obama administration announced it favored canceling a 16-year-old $3.5 billion tomato trade deal with mexico. the deal encourages imports and has kept tomato prices low. but florida growers say they're so low they can't catch up. the numbers show mexican tomato sales have quadruple since 2000 while florida has seen its cut shrink dramatically. after a flurry of letters from lawmakers, the commerce department decided to repd the trade agreement be scrapped. mexico growers were stunned, upset they hadn't been granted a meeting until after the decision. why did the decision get rushed? presidential politic, the influence of those florida growers might have played just a small role. michael isakoff is nbc's national investigative correspondent. it's an election year and hearing about issues like this, oh, favoritism of this front for florida. favoritism on that front for ohio. it shouldn't come as a shock and yet, we see it play out every year. four years, excuse me. >> this is a fascinating look about how to use the levers of power of incumbency to help yourself in an ele
last week, the obama administration announced it favored canceling a 16-year-old $3.5 billion tomato trade deal with mexico. the deal encourages imports and has kept tomato prices low. but florida growers say they're so low they can't catch up. the numbers show mexican tomato sales have quadruple since 2000 while florida has seen its cut shrink dramatically. after a flurry of letters from lawmakers, the commerce department decided to repd the trade agreement be scrapped. mexico growers were...
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to that end, the obama campaign boasted today having opened the 120th campaign office. romney said they contacted by knocking on door osar making phone calls 4 million people here, one of third of the population. bret? >> bret: carl cameron traveling with romney. thank you. now to president obama and what he is doing to put a turn quit on the poll numbers. chief white house correspondent ed henry reports the president says no more mr. nice guy. >> after days of battering from the supporters for a lackluster debate that led to a dive in the polls, president obama suggested he heard criticism and ready to crank up the negative downtown attacks, trying to reassure the base at a san francisco fundraiser by unleashing this hit on republican mitt romney. >> don't be so polite. don't be so nice. being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> the president's idea of leadership in the final weeks includes an effort to double down on defending big bird. after romney's debate promise to cut government programs like public broadcasting, the alternative is borrowing more
to that end, the obama campaign boasted today having opened the 120th campaign office. romney said they contacted by knocking on door osar making phone calls 4 million people here, one of third of the population. bret? >> bret: carl cameron traveling with romney. thank you. now to president obama and what he is doing to put a turn quit on the poll numbers. chief white house correspondent ed henry reports the president says no more mr. nice guy. >> after days of battering from the...
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week. >>> few hours from now new jobs numbers will be released for the month of september. it is 32 day brothers the president will face voerts at the polls and if the experts are right about the numbers they won't do him any favors. the unemployment rate is expect to do inch up above the 8.1 percent this spelling more bad news for the president who was hammered over the declining economy. >> now to extreme weather. fall may have just arrived but old man winter already hitting the midwest. check out this brand new video snow falling over minnesota and north dakota. some areas may see a foot by the end of today. the wet snow causing trouble on the roads and knocking out power to thousands of people. >>> guest who the first lady would like to pick to play president obama if a movie were made about him? >> you are responsible for your house guest. i am your house guest. >> there you see him right there. mrs. obama said she would probably choose denzel washington. pop sugar viewers an entertain
week. >>> few hours from now new jobs numbers will be released for the month of september. it is 32 day brothers the president will face voerts at the polls and if the experts are right about the numbers they won't do him any favors. the unemployment rate is expect to do inch up above the 8.1 percent this spelling more bad news for the president who was hammered over the declining economy. >> now to extreme weather. fall may have just arrived but old man winter already hitting...